MVC/OVC Podcast


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My friend & I have launched a new podcast called View of the Valleys. It will discuss men's basketball in both the Missouri Valley & Ohio Valley conferences. We have already recorded & released two episodes. Episode 1 is an introductory podcast giving a rundown of what to expect from the podcast. In episode 2, we discuss the expansion of P5 conference schedules, MVC/OVC transfers, & our Mt. Rushmore for Austin Peay & Bradley. In our next episode we will unveil our Drake Mt. Rushmore.  

We would greatly appreciate a listen if you're so inclined and let us know what you think. You can also follow us on Twitter @Viewvalleyspod 

I am including the show links for Google & Apple podcasts. 

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Just listened, mostly wanted to hear what the Drake Mt. Rushmore picks would be. DN folks, who would be on your Drake Mt. Rushmore?
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Without a ton of thought I would have to say Dolph, Lewis Lloyd, JY, Reed Timmer.

I would certainly understand if folks want to go Pulliam, Wise, McCarter, and Lloyd, however.

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Dolph was probably only the 3rd best player on the 69 team.

I'd go with McCarter, Wise, Lloyd, Red Murrell

I guess the question I'd have would be, is this based on what they did while at Drake or their basketball accomplishments as a pro?

If it's based on pro career, I'd probably go Netolicky, Wise, Lloyd and McCoy McLemore
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First of all, thanks for listening we really appreciate it and love the discussion about Mt. Rushmore. 

The original four I had were Lloyd, McCarter, Timmer & Emmencker.  I felt okay leaving off Timmer because he had so many more games to be a top scorer in school history compared to Murrell.  Dolph was certainly one I gave strong consideration to, especially since he is in the MVC HoF.  There was probably a little recency bias for Emmenecker given that he was such a bright spot for the 07-08 team.  

As to the question about is it college only or is pro career considered as well...I took overall basketball impact into account. There are a couple of players on future Mt. Rushmores that aren't on the careers stats leaders at their school, but it's hard to think of their program without thinking of them. 
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That’s true. I also thought about does it only have to be four-year players? (I disagree, just a thought) Which would eliminate Lewis Lloyd. And one of the Willie’s as well, I forget which one. But I think the pro career for Lloyd is important.

Dolph definitely gets a lot of pull from his post-basketball Drake impact.

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Willie McCarter - Final Four. Lakers
Willie Wise - Final Four. Nuggets and Supersonics 
Lewis Lloyd - Rockets
Curt Smith - Kevin Durant called him the best basketball player ever to come out of DC. Won MVC player of the year. Won MVC Newcomer of the year. Averaged 21 points a game.
Dolph Pulliam - Final Four. Drafted by the cowboys and celtics. 

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Emmenecker or JY - 28/5. Top 25 Ranking. Return to the tournament. AE won POY. Josh was the leading scorer.
I loved Timmer but he scored a bunch of points playing every minute on some horrifically bad Drake teams. Never won NOY, POY, FOY. 

* I've edited to include Dolph.
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Knappdog17 - 5/26/2020
Willie McCarter - Final Four. Lakers
Willie Wise - Final Four. Nuggets and Supersonics 
Lewis Lloyd - Final Four. Rockets
Curt Smith - Kevin Durant called him the best basketball player ever to come out of DC. Won MVC player of the year. Won MVC Newcomer of the year. Averaged 21 points a game at Drake
Emmenecker or JY - 28/5. Top 25 Ranking. Return to the tournament. AE won POY. Josh was the leading scorer.


I loved Timmer but he scored a bunch of points playing every minute on some horrifically bad Drake teams. Never won NOY, POY, FOY. 


Knappdog, how many faces do you think are on Mount Rushmore? ;):D
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Knappdog17 - 5/26/2020
Willie McCarter - Final Four. Lakers
Willie Wise - Final Four. Nuggets and Supersonics 
Lewis Lloyd - Final Four. Rockets
Curt Smith - Kevin Durant called him the best basketball player ever to come out of DC. Won MVC player of the year. Won MVC Newcomer of the year. Averaged 21 points a game.
Emmenecker or JY - 28/5. Top 25 Ranking. Return to the tournament. AE won POY. Josh was the leading scorer.


I loved Timmer but he scored a bunch of points playing every minute on some horrifically bad Drake teams. Never won NOY, POY, FOY. 


Lloyd wasn't on the Final 4 team. 

For me, no way would Timmer or Emmenecker be up there.  Timmer for reasons you mentioned.  Emmenecker was a complete non-entity for 3 of his 4 years and I honestly think he was only Drake 4th best player the year he won POY (Young, Cox, Houston).  He was a really cool story, but I don't think he should have been POY that season.

If Curt Smith played more than one season, he would definitely deserve to be up there.
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SOSublime - 5/26/2020
Knappdog17 - 5/26/2020
Willie McCarter - Final Four. Lakers
Willie Wise - Final Four. Nuggets and Supersonics 
Lewis Lloyd - Final Four. Rockets
Curt Smith - Kevin Durant called him the best basketball player ever to come out of DC. Won MVC player of the year. Won MVC Newcomer of the year. Averaged 21 points a game at Drake
Emmenecker or JY - 28/5. Top 25 Ranking. Return to the tournament. AE won POY. Josh was the leading scorer.


I loved Timmer but he scored a bunch of points playing every minute on some horrifically bad Drake teams. Never won NOY, POY, FOY. 


Knappdog, how many faces do you think are on Mount Rushmore? ;):D

Haha, it felt wrong only putting 4 on the court so I did a presidential starting 5. 
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Bucky has got to be in the mix somewhere!












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The 5 

Lewis Lloyd

Dolph Pulliam

Willie McCarter

Willie Wise

4 way tie  -  Adam Emmenecker    He understood what a point guard was supposed to do, which is rare.  Josh Young - Helped the Bulldogs through some tough times with 2-3 players hanging on him on defense. 
Reed Timmer - like Josh Young was consistent and a smart player and took it to the next level.  Jeff Haliburton - Just when Bulldog fan's thought tournaments would be hard to come by, Jaff Haliburton made it happen.




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Episode #4 is now available on Apple & Google We visit with Charles of the D1 Docket, discuss MTEs for schools in both conferences & detail our Eastern Illinois & Evansville Mt. Rushmores.

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Latest episode is now available on Apple & Google. We had a great visit with former SIUE head coach and previous Evansville assistant Lennox Forrester (with improved interview audio) and we give our Mt. Rushmore for Eastern Kentucky & Illinois State. 

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Episode six is now available on Apple & Google.  We visit with Bradley Braves beat reporter Dave Reynolds of the Peoria Journal Star and reveal our Mt. Rushmore for Indiana State & Jacksonville State.
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Three best players of all time are clearly Lloyd, McCarter and Willie Wise. Bob Netolicky had a nice career and a really good career in the ABA. Wayne Kreklow I would say would be up there. Also agree with Halliburton. Damn good player on a very good team as well.
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I think Kenny Harris is a bit of an underrated player as well. 2 time all MVC. Also, we all think of Lee Lloyd but Pop Wright played a very key 2 role for 2 years with him. Could shoot the lights out from deep.
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