Veeny009
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+xDoes Dan Muller vote in this poll. Yes I think so.....
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Veeny009
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5th seems pretty reasonable if you don't expect Tremell to play..
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Drakey
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I don't think fifth is wrong nor would I think second would be wrong. There are more unknowns in the Valley than at any time I can recall.
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musiccitybulldog
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I'm picking Loyola, Drake, UNI and Evansville as the top four. How many times have we heard Missouri State is going to shake things up and Bradley has turned things around. No matter how well Illinois State does they never win the tournament. If the Drake team had not had injuries in St. Louis they would have been dancing.
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Drakey
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Drake gets one player with all conference recognition (Wilkins third team) I'm guessing that will not be the case at the end of the season.
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DUBulldog
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+xDrake gets one player with all conference recognition (Wilkins third team) I'm guessing that will not be the case at the end of the season. Agree 100%
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musiccitybulldog
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+xDrake gets one player with all conference recognition (Wilkins third team) I'm guessing that will not be the case at the end of the season. For sure Drakey. Noah Thomas gave the two best Illinois State players all they could take in St. Louis last year. Do these writers ever watch the games.
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ColonialBulldog
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I know these preseason teams are pretty meaningless but there's no way the returning co-champs aren't feeling slighted. 10 out of the other 15 players on those preseason all-conference teams play for squads* that went a combined 0-8 against Drake last season. (No one on the 2nd Team beat Drake last year).
*There are a couple of newcomer transfers on these preseason all conference teams.
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SOSublime
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+xI know these preseason teams are pretty meaningless but there's no way the returning co-champs aren't feeling slighted. 10 out of the other 15 players on those preseason all-conference teams play for squads* that went a combined 0-8 against Drake last season. (No one on the 2nd Team beat Drake last year). *There are a couple of newcomer transfers on these preseason all conference teams. I agree. I think we're better than 5th place and I think some of our guys, at the very least DJ, deserve to be higher up on the preseason all-conference teams. I am just surprised we're not in the conversation more, not sure why, maybe it's because of our history but I kind of thought last year's performance would turn things around a little. Maybe we just need 2 or 3 years of consistent top MVC performances before that happens...
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Mc Bulldog
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*our
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SOSublime
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Hey, I was 1 for 2. You couldn't just let it slide?
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Mc Bulldog
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I be da grwamah kings and shat.
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Drakey
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Forgot how good he is.
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musiccitybulldog
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+x+xI know these preseason teams are pretty meaningless but there's no way the returning co-champs aren't feeling slighted. 10 out of the other 15 players on those preseason all-conference teams play for squads* that went a combined 0-8 against Drake last season. (No one on the 2nd Team beat Drake last year). *There are a couple of newcomer transfers on these preseason all conference teams. I agree. I think we're better than 5th place and I think some of our guys, at the very least DJ, deserve to be higher up on the preseason all-conference teams. I am just surprised we're not in the conversation more, not sure why, maybe it's because of our history but I kind of thought last year's performance would turn things around a little. Maybe we just need 2 or 3 years of consistent top MVC performances before that happens... I think a lot of being in the conversation comes about by how much pre-season information is put out along with local writers input. Missouri State seems to always give the impression of being the team to beat. I remember making a trip to Des Moines a few years ago to watch MSU's pro prospect and I don't think he scored a field goal, made 2 free throws. Drake beat them twice.
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SOSublime
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+1. I thought the same thing.
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Knappdog17
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They're conducting the fan poll on mvcfans.com. Looks like it's between Drake and UNI for 4th and 5th.
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Optimist
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+xThey're conducting the fan poll on mvcfans.com. Looks like it's between Drake and UNI for 4th and 5th. With the massive roster changes that have occurred at most of the MVC schools, I think it's almost impossible to make an accurate pre-season prediction. On the other hand, I'm impressed with the recruiting efforts of the Drake coaches and I'm definitely optimistic.
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Optimist
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+xThey're conducting the fan poll on mvcfans.com. Looks like it's between Drake and UNI for 4th and 5th. CBS Sports released a ranking of all Division 1 teams. Missouri State is ranked much higher than any other MVC team. After Missouri State, the order of rankings is Loyola, Bradley, UNI, Drake, Indiana State, Evansville, Illinois State, Valpo, and SIU. Interesting, but like any other pre-season poll, it should probably be taken with a very heavy grain of salt. cbs
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