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| Gilstrap's appeal for a sixth year was denied, so he's gone. Brackins announced he's turning pro, so he's gone. Hamilton and Buckley announced they're transferring so they're gone. That makes three guys who would've started next year plus a reserve who've left the program (although Gilstrap's departure wasn't by his choice). Perhaps most disappointing to ISU fans, McDermott will be back next year.
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| Something is awry at ISU somewhere, and only one person is the constant.
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| McDermott has brought in some good players at ISU, but a huge amount of players have left with eligibility remaining during his tenure. He's been in constant rebuilding mode.
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| | This one is hard for me...I like McDermott, but something sure has gone wrong at ISU. |
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| | I saw Iowa State play Texas Wednesday night & can say that it looks like McDermott is in way over his head. I know many people on here were touting Iowa State as a tournament team after they dismantled Drake early in the season. After sitting courtside & watching, let me say that Ia State still has plenty of talent, even w/losing some players from early in the season. Dendy is a phenomenal athlete, Brackins will play in the nba, Gilstrap is another great athlete as well. Christopherson is a adaquate shooting guard but I think Garrett sucks. Still, this is a team w/talent. I think he's actually had more defections than Lickliter at Iowa. They play like a ymca team. 1 point game w/6 -7 minutes to go & Brackins doesn't see the ball. Gilstrap 1 one 1. Garrett 20 footer even though he can't shoot. Texas was up 9 a minutes later & the game was over. They seem to have no real offensive sets & they do not play team ball at all. It looked like Mac wants to be everybody's friend. |
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| The comments here about ISU sound familiar without all the defections. If you close your eyes and just listen to the posts without any names.... I'm not saying....I'm just saying...
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| rawdawg (3/13/2010)
The comments here about ISU sound familiar without all the defections. If you close your eyes and just listen to the posts without any names.... I'm not saying....I'm just saying...
Yep Raw, it certainly does sound like Iowa, I am very happy coach Phelps and Drake have a much better aura around our program. Im glad we don't have a lot of parents who are frustrated coaches mucking things up. Our future is much brighter, both Iowa and ISU will have new coaches within the next year and I think Jacobson will be given an offer he can't refuse before too long. It's nice to have stability even if there are some growing pains. 
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| can always count on BigBull to bring clarity to things here on the board. Thanks BigBull....
Glad DU doesn't have the problems that our Iowa Big Ten, Big 12 teams, coaches, and fans
are experiencing. Our future is so much brighter..... Excellent players, fans, staff, parents,
and even frustrated our Paper Lions....
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| [quote]rawdawg (3/13/2010)
can always count on BigBull to bring clarity to things here on the board. Thanks BigBull....
Glad DU doesn't have the problems that our Iowa Big Ten, Big 12 teams, coaches, and fans
are experiencing. Our future is so much brighter..... Excellent players, fans, staff, parents,
and even frustrated our Paper Lions....[/quote]
Thanks Raw, I am also very glad we have a classier set of fans who don't sweat the small stuff. The nice thing about a Drake fan is they actually went to college and are smart enough to know when to nit pick, and when there are real systemic problems. Iowa and ISU have serious systemic issues at this point. We need to do some tweeking and growing, coaches included, but I am going to stay positive.
Young coaches and young managers go through phases, trusting too much, wanting too much control, and it takes time to find the balance.
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| I am very happy coach Phelps and Drake have a much better aura around our program. Im glad we don't have a lot of parents who are frustrated coaches mucking things up. Our future is much brighter, both Iowa and ISU will have new coaches within the next year
Check back in two years. We'll see if this is still true. Two good hires and we will be 4th best on a regular basis in the state once again. |
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| dudistance (3/13/2010)
[quote]I am very happy coach Phelps and Drake have a much better aura around our program. Im glad we don't have a lot of parents who are frustrated coaches mucking things up. Our future is much brighter, both Iowa and ISU will have new coaches within the next year
Check back in two years. We'll see if this is still true. Two good hires and we will be 4th best on a regular basis in the state once again.[/quote]
Funny, I think both of those programs have been hoping the same thing for their last two hires. But between Drake and UNI they are not having much success.
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| rawdawg (3/13/2010)
The comments here about ISU sound familiar without all the defections. If you close your eyes and just listen to the posts without any names.... I'm not saying....I'm just saying...
I completely disagree. My son goes to ISU, I've watched their games and seen their players in the summer. I like Diante Garrett as a set of skills, but can't stand him as a team player. He is selfish and routinely quits. Brackins is touted as this lock NBA player, but he strikes me as LAZY. He will never last in the NBA with his college work ethic. For you Raw to compare the hardworking, outstanding young men of Drake to these two self-indulgent lazy kids is an outrage.
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| Gordon
For you Raw to compare the hardworking, outstanding young men of Drake to these two self-indulgent lazy kids is an outrage.
I made no such comparison. I don't think I referenced any players. Our players are
cerebral, hardworking, diligent, relatively athletic, and true team players.
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| rawdawg (3/14/2010)
I made no such comparison. I don't think I referenced any players. Our players are cerebral, hardworking, diligent, relatively athletic, and true team players.
If you're trying to compare McDermott and Phelps, it doesn't quite work. McDermott's main problem has been recruiting, specifically bringing in too many sub-par players, and not retaining the quality players he did sign. Recruiting has been Phelps's strength, though. He's brought in seven scholarship players so far, and they've all contributed already (not counting Clarke who redshirted this year). Compare that to Keno, who brought in four players in his one class; two of those never made it to DU or D1 basketball, and a third hasn't played in a game in his two years.
I think ISU hasn't had a guy play all four years at ISU in the McDermott era. It's pretty hard to win when you're constantly reteaching your system to freshmen, sophomores, and jucos. I'm sure McDermott's system will look a lot better once he gets a team of guys who've run it for more than a year or two.
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| Micky D's done after next year. He can't put it together that fast.
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Is summer league post season play?
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| It's more than the x's and o's. Getting top-notch players is one thing. Getting them to
buy into a system is another. Finding players that will fit into your system is a challenge
too (if you have a system that you know will work and can implement). How long that
takes, varies. In the meantime; time, money, effort, and expense is being expended. In today's impulsive culture, not many people want to wait 3-5 years for that to happen.
True, there is no quick fix but there is always another fix than that one that is not working.....
The consensus says three years....so, we shall see........
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| Raw
"In today's impulsive culture, not many people want to wait 3-5 years for that to happen."
You hit the nail with this one!
The impulsive have it now crowd are the main whiners and will be just as upset with the next transition whether at ISU or UI.
Glad we don't have too many like that around here.
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| rawdawg (3/15/2010)
In today's impulsive culture, not many people want to wait 3-5 years for that to happen.
Like you with Coach P.
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| Gordon,
Like you with Coach P.
I totally misinterpreted the mood of Bulldog faithful on "Building a Winning Legacy",
of which, I apologize. Coming off a 28-5 "Dream Season" of 07-08, as some posters refer to
it; "Keeping it going" should have been the mood. "Building a Winning Legacy"
is only symbolic if you build from the bottom up and not a true continuation of something
already started. Now that that is straight...let's start the building again.. How long did you say it would take?
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| BigBull,
The impulsive have it now crowd are the main whiners and will be just as upset with the next transition whether at ISU or UI. Glad we don't have too many like that around here.
I get it BB. Is this right? To be a true Drake basketball fan, you must have patience, endurances, and a well stocked liquor cabinet.... I only repeat what I've heard, read, and seen. I don't drink so I will have to learn through the things I suffer.... Thank God for "Dream Seasons", huh? The third year is our year, right? Is the internship over? Calipari only
needed one year...but that's a whole other story...He has great players....history..and
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