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| Drakey (3/9/2010)
I wondered about that myself when I did the calculations. The percentages were drastically lower during that year. No other year was even close, though in 97-98 the 3 point percentage was only 56%. (5/9).
But, of course, in 1997-98, teams did not need to hit shots at the end of the game to beat Drake. The game was always well in hand by then. 
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| PubGuy (3/9/2010)
If I didn't know they were true, I would say those numbers are ridiculously high. All I know is I still $*@#ing hate Mike Vande Garde.
Amen Pub...Amen
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| | McBull, If you are saying Keno never coached, why didn't Phelps just let Templeton & Young coach this year? I think we might have actually done better. Kind of like Bill Russell being a player coach for the Celtics! |
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| zman2 (3/9/2010)
McBull, If you are saying Keno never coached, why didn't Phelps just let Templeton & Young coach this year? I think we might have actually done better. Kind of like Bill Russell being a player coach for the Celtics!
Z, a good manager lets those under him who have earned the trust through past decisions grow in their roles. If you look at the beggining of the Dream season, we were not all marvelling at AE, he grew into the machine as the season went on. KK was a natural floor general who led by example and could get the others motivated. That senior cadre of players had confidence in each other and it grew especially in the Valley games. Keno didn't turn the team over, he let the leaders who had proven their ability lead other experienced players. When your youngest starter is a highly talented proven Sophmore, on a team playing the same fundamental system for four years straight, you can let the seniors lead.
We have not been in the same situation the past two years, especially this year with so many new faces and a system that is evolving.
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| BigBull,
We have not been in the same situation the past two years, especially this year with so many new faces and a system that is evolving
BigBull, please explain the DU evolving system. It might just be me but this evolution must take a few years to
implement. Seriously, let us in on the system we're all patiently waiting on......
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| I just don't think Drake had the level of talent needed to get it done this year. That's the bottom line. I don't care what system was ran. Doesn't mean I'm not proud of the guys. I wouldn't trade any of 'em for the world. But to continue to blame and justify the reason for not finishing stronger on the coach is just plain wrong. Trying to justify and hold up a loved one's ability as a skilled player after a season of disappointment by continuing to come on an anonymous message board and rip Coach Phelps is a slap in the face to Drake University, the students, the fans, the community, and most of all to the players themselves. This **** is getting old .... if you need therapy, go to a professional. I keep hoping this will stop but I guess some think they are slick ... in reality it is classless. Knock the crap off. 
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| [quote]rawdawg (3/13/2010)
BigBull,
We have not been in the same situation the past two years, especially this year with so many new faces and a system that is evolving
BigBull, please explain the DU evolving system. It might just be me but this evolution must take a few years to
implement. Seriously, let us in on the system we're all patiently waiting on......[/quote]
He is tweeking what he has been a part of, and finding what will work for him, Raw I am sure being the frustrated head coach you are that you have it all diagrammed out and would have won 25 games this year either on the Xbox or PS3. Sorry reality worked out a little differently. I am not ready to throw it in after two years and am very excited about the kids we have and those that are on their way. I am sorry that all you can seem to do is focus on every negative thing you can come up with. You have bandwagoned with those calling Phelps a micro manager, well what are you then? You nitpick everything. Seasons over man enjoy the tourney have a beer and relax. I have been critical about some things this year and stand by them but at this point it's about reloading and adjusting. You seem intent on bitching about the size of the catsup bottle on the training table at this point and it's getting old.
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| Someone please explain to me what this fascination is with comparing Coach P's first two years with the Davis dynasty's fifth year. Basketball is a team game and success in large part at the mid-major level comes from "chemistry" and "experience."
So compare this. Davis fifth year chemistry and experience:
1. Top 6 players -- 3 seniors (1 a fifth year senior), two 4th year juniors and a 2nd year phenom.
2. Coaching staff was together for five years, had at least five years experience in the Valley, recruited the entire roster.
3. System being run for 5 years.
Coach P chemistry and experience:
1. Players -- 4 seniors, one a phenom, but 2 of the other 3 were junior transfers and the 4th only had 2 years of regular playing time. Every other player on the team was in their first year of eligibility.
2. Coaching staff has been together for 2 years and only JO had any Valley coaching experience.
3. System being run for two years.
The last two years are not about "talent" or a "system", they are about an adjustment. Just like Keno is going through with Providence in his second year (finishing 15th out of 16 teams), just like Ben Jacobson went through in his second and the first half of his third year at UNI (even though he had much more familiarity with his players and the Valley than Coach P), just like McDermott and Lick are going through. Some coaches succeed because they get and keep the players, some don't. I'm betting Coach P succeeds because great players make great coaches.
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| With the talent coming in, I definitely think there's potential for being a very good team.
One must remember though that the only person who could 'stop' Michael Jordan was...Dean Smith.
I hope the team next year plays to "win" instead of playing "not to lose"...I've seen way too much of that over the past couple of years.
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| Pt guard play and defensive toughness will define next years success. Go Dogs!
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| Darth Vader (3/14/2010)
One must remember though that the only person who could 'stop' Michael Jordan was...Dean Smith.
Yeah, he stopped him all the way to a national title.
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| Gordon Gottschalk (3/14/2010)
[quote]Darth Vader (3/14/2010)
One must remember though that the only person who could 'stop' Michael Jordan was...Dean Smith.
Yeah, he stopped him all the way to a national title.[/quote]
I think it was just one, his freshman year. So he at least slowed him down after that. |
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| BigBull,
[quote]He is tweeking what he has been a part of, and finding what will work for him, Raw I am sure being the frustrated head coach you are that you have it all diagrammed out and would have won 25 games this year either on the Xbox or PS3. Sorry reality worked out a little differently. I am not ready to throw it in after two years and am very excited about the kids we have and those that are on their way. I am sorry that all you can seem to do is focus on every negative thing you can come up with. You have bandwagoned with those calling Phelps a micro manager, well what are you then? You nitpick everything. Seasons over man enjoy the tourney have a beer and relax. I have been critical about some things this year and stand by them but at this point it's about reloading and adjusting. You seem intent on bitching about the size of the catsup bottle on the training table at this point and it's getting old.
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I think you need to chill.....seriously. There is no frustration here. The season is over and the future is bright. This is a chat forum and that's what's being done here. This is just basketball......not war or world peace. It's Drake basketball at that. Our guys are the best educated young men in the country and we all shouldn't take this basketball thing that seriously. As it has been pointed out many times....This is not Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, or UNC for that matter. Nitpicking is tweaking. Batching is critical critiquing. If I'm posting about something, it's happening
or has happened. I must have overlooked the "positive posts only" info. I apologize. There's actually a ton of
positive things going on....and Drake basketball is headed to the top.....
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| [quote]rawdawg (3/14/2010)
BigBull,
[quote]He is tweeking what he has been a part of, and finding what will work for him, Raw I am sure being the frustrated head coach you are that you have it all diagrammed out and would have won 25 games this year either on the Xbox or PS3. Sorry reality worked out a little differently. I am not ready to throw it in after two years and am very excited about the kids we have and those that are on their way. I am sorry that all you can seem to do is focus on every negative thing you can come up with. You have bandwagoned with those calling Phelps a micro manager, well what are you then? You nitpick everything. Seasons over man enjoy the tourney have a beer and relax. I have been critical about some things this year and stand by them but at this point it's about reloading and adjusting. You seem intent on bitching about the size of the catsup bottle on the training table at this point and it's getting old.
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I think you need to chill.....seriously. There is no frustration here. The season is over and the future is bright. This is a chat forum and that's what's being done here. This is just basketball......not war or world peace. It's Drake basketball at that. Our guys are the best educated young men in the country and we all shouldn't take this basketball thing that seriously. As it has been pointed out many times....This is not Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, or UNC for that matter. Nitpicking is tweaking. Batching is critical critiquing. If I'm posting about something, it's happening
or has happened. I must have overlooked the "positive posts only" info. I apologize. There's actually a ton of
positive things going on....and Drake basketball is headed to the top.....[/quote]
Glad to see your coming around!
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