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| I have but one thing to say in this debate. I never thought Keno cost us a game with his coaching. MP on the other hand.....
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| How can anyone say that there is no such thing as luck?
If I chuck two balls from half court and happen to make one, is that not luck? Or did I just "want it more" on that shot?
That team two years ago had a great combination of luck and skill. They were a great team but they also got lucky a few times. (And unlucky one time on a very big stage.)
Drake won't be able to recreate that season but I'm not about to say that we aren't still getting some good fortune from that year. I think we're going to see some young players step up next season. Huge strides can be made between a player's freshman and sophomore season.
I feel much better about our freshmen, no matter how lost they looked at times, than I do about a couple of our returning experienced players. |
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| Dawg_tired (3/8/2010)
I have but one thing to say in this debate. I never thought Keno cost us a game with his coaching. MP on the other hand.....
And your one sentence was more astute than all of the rambling posts on here combined.
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| Dawg_tired (3/8/2010)
I have but one thing to say in this debate. I never thought Keno cost us a game with his coaching. MP on the other hand.....
You would be correct in that Erector Set Boy never cost Drake a game with his coaching. He never coached.
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| DT,
I have but one thing to say in this debate. I never thought Keno cost us a game with his coaching. MP on the other hand.....
I can only think of one.... The BIG ONE - WKU..... should have put a BIG on the throw in and denied the initial catch. WKU was out of T.Os and we had just gotten a five sec. count only a minute or so previous. WKU set up the perfect play for the long shot. It was not LUCK..... it was designed. The kid knocked down the long ball. We got to the dance with the long ball and we lost by the long ball. "It is what it is...."
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| Mc Bulldog (3/8/2010)
[quote]Dawg_tired (3/8/2010)
I have but one thing to say in this debate. I never thought Keno cost us a game with his coaching. MP on the other hand.....
You would be correct in that Erector Set Boy never cost Drake a game with his coaching. He never coached.[/quote]
You know that's not true ya prack. You're just pissed off that he left. If finding lightening in a bottle were easy you'd be a fricking thunderstorm.
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| [quote]rawdawg (3/8/2010)
DT,
I have but one thing to say in this debate. I never thought Keno cost us a game with his coaching. MP on the other hand.....
I can only think of one.... The BIG ONE - WKU..... should have put a BIG on the throw in and denied the initial catch. WKU was out of T.Os and we had just gotten a five sec. count only a minute or so previous. WKU set up the perfect play for the long shot. It was not LUCK..... it was designed. The kid knocked down the long ball. We got to the dance with the long ball and we lost by the long ball. "It is what it is...."[/quote]
I could also point to Klayton Korver hoisting threes when the game was in the bag. Would have made that long ball moot.
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| Yeah... it was a painful experience for us all... live and learn.. I give MP2 credit for putting a BIG on the ball at the end of the SIU game at StL. with 1.5 on the clock. Anything is possible.
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| Been reading more posting less this year, but wanted to weigh in on this one.
Even if Keno didn't coach a lick during the miracle season, he did a great job of not overcoaching. If you give every coach a walk-on for a starting point guard, 99 percent of them would have called every single play down the court. If AE and KK coached the team, Keno was smart enough to let them do it.
Don't quite get the animosity that some have for Keno. Phelps will do the same thing should he have anywhere near that kind of season. And I'll tip my hat to him and wish him luck.
Of course, there may be some people more in the know about the program than I am and have more of the inside scoop.
Did Dr. Tom make any kind of appearance for JY's senior day?
Was disappointed to see Keno suffer some close losses this last week. I have a feeling he may be under the gun more than Phelps in the 10-11 season.
This will be a key offseason for the Dogs. I'm excited about the performance of SVD and the potential of BS, AH and DS. Some hard work in the offseason will turn that potential into performance. I'm even holding out hope for SJ!
Off topic: Anything on Johnny Coy out of Wichita State?
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| P.S: Thought Drake played pretty good defense on the final play against WKU. Kid just hit a legendary shot.
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| PubGuy (3/8/2010)
P.S: Thought Drake played pretty good defense on the final play against WKU. Kid just hit a legendary shot.
What are you talking about? What is a WKU?
On a side note, I remember the game at SMS (for darth) that closed down that old building that D lost. I felt like at the time the adjustments that Keno didn't make on the defensive side (pressed too much or something, I don't recall) really hurt Drake down the stretch.
But typically speaking the only coaching I ever saw was Justin Ohl's clapping. However, everyone should acknowledge Keno did a great job managing the team.
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| DU 53
Keno did a great job managing the team
Guys/Girls....that's what we're talking about. Management style that's most effective with the
players that you have. Keno was a great manager (facilitator). MP2 is a micro-manager. One
female reporter from St. Louis likened Phelps to a youth basketball coach. It was demonstrated
this year that we had the players that could play with and beat any team in the Valley on any
given night. We were out-managed too many times this season. Let's hope we'll manage better
next year...
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| PubGuy (3/8/2010)
Did Dr. Tom make any kind of appearance for JY's senior day?
He was not there in person, but there was a video of him congratulating and thanking Josh.
Off topic: Anything on Johnny Coy out of Wichita State?
I don't know if this is being asked seriously, or as a smart-alec question.....so I'll answer in a manner assuming it was serious.
Coy dropped basketball to focus on baseball....never saw the court at WSU. From what I heard from some WSU fans who are in the know, the Coy situation created some serious friction between the baseball and basketball coaches at WSU.
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| Thanks, DU. Was serious question. I was just too lazy to look it up on the WSU boards. Had been wondering about that while watching the Shocks in the MVC tourney.
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| | The design of the play by WKU may not have been luck but the fact that he actually made it was definitely luck. What are the chances he'd make that shot again? 1-in-10? |
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| Brick94 (3/8/2010)
The design of the play by WKU may not have been luck but the fact that he actually made it was definitely luck. What are the chances he'd make that shot again? 1-in-10?
If they were playing Drake, 12 in 10
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| I actually went back throught the archives for the past twenty years and calculated the shooting percentage of Drake's opponents in the final 10 seconds of games decided by 3 points or less. Drakes opponents shot 83% overall and 74% on threes. Dawgtired's 12 out of 10 is ridiculous.
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| Drakey (3/9/2010)
I actually went back throught the archives for the past twenty years and calculated the shooting percentage of Drake's opponents in the final 10 seconds of games decided by 3 points or less. Drakes opponents shot 83% overall and 74% on threes.
Take out the 2007-08 season, and those numbers rise to 88% and 82%.
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| I wondered about that myself when I did the calculations. The percentages were drastically lower during that year. No other year was even close, though in 97-98 the 3 point percentage was only 56%. (5/9) It is really pretty amazing. I wonder what the percentage would be against other teams.
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| If I didn't know they were true, I would say those numbers are ridiculously high. All I know is I still $*@#ing hate Mike Vande Garde.
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