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| [quote]rawdawg (3/9/2010)
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Agree with Big Bull. I have to believe that the coaching staff will review film and figure out what worked and did not work this year. I actually think the loss of Young in particular will cause one or more of the returning players to really pick up his game. Next year's team should be good. If they are not, it is on Phelps.
Really !!! You would think that they would have done that this year when they were winning 5 in a row. I don't think they
did and if they did, they couldn't figure it out. You would also think that they would have reviewed video of how DU
went 28-5 the year before MP2 took over. That didn't happen either. Hopefully, the players and coaches will pick up their
games after losing JY, as well as the other seniors, for a better 10-11 season. MP2 owns it now...[/quote]
I didn't say Phelps was as smart as you. I said that with 6 months to review things, I think he should be able to figure it out.
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| Drakey,
I didn't say Phelps was as smart as you. I said that with 6 months to review things, I think he should be able to figure it out.
Like you, I'm just an average guy.... I think we agree on this point.
It's not a matter of intelligence here. It's basketball. This is what his job description calls for.
We all hope, after 2 years, something gets figured out around here. It may take longer and
we will have to accept it or push for a change......
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| Create the conditions to WIN instead of playing not to lose.
And please remove the "prevent offense" scheme from the playbook. Thanks.
Oh yeah, and please figure out appropriate times to call a timeout...nothing like seeing JY drive or AT put up a 3 only for the play to be dead because a TO was called at that precise moment...
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| Drakey (3/9/2010)
Agree with Big Bull. I have to believe that the coaching staff will review film and figure out what worked and did not work this year. I actually think the loss of Young in particular will cause one or more of the returning players to really pick up his game. Next year's team should be good. If they are not, it is on Phelps.
I didn't see much adjustment from year 1 to year 2.. You expect to see adjustments in year 3? Dream on. I see a lack of flexibility. A leopard don't change his spots. I will hope but I will also anticipate disappointment. If you don't train to be aggresive, you will most certainly not perform aggressively. |
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| USMC: There were some adjustments this year for a little while. I specifically noticed that the spacing was greater and that the wings were out 4 to 5 feet further at one point which opened up the middle for penetration. Maybe it was something the players were doing contrary to orders, and it was corrrected (or miscorrected) but it was there for awhile. If he's going to play the no spacing prevent offense, he will have to switch his lineup and make Simons the 2. I think you would have to have a very tall team to succeed with the offnse we saw the last 5 or 6 games.
I sure HOPE you are wrong.
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| I think when we see the improvement in individuals a lot of the concerns will be addressed. Part of the rebounding issue (not all by any means but part) was the youth, Hawley and Simons were not as assertive under the basket, they were freshmen and tentative, at this level you have fight for every board, they are learning those lessons, Seth is a natural rebounder, RU improved greatly as the year went on and with him getting the bulk of the min as a reserve our overall defensive boards will improve. H and S had ball after ball taken away or they were not agressive enough to go after them. This will change as time goes on. I am hopefull that JC is also an agressive defender and rebounder. If JC is close to an AT and H and S improve our overall rebounding will be improved.
We don't know how ready the new guy's will be but I have a good feeling we are not looking at shy kids. RR should have an imediate defensive and rebounding impact. I am hopefull of the same from JJ and KM based on the reports we have seen.
The scheme for offensive rebounding, is a system issue more than a player issue in my oppinion. Coach needs to fix this.
We really need FW to step up in his Junior year, if we can spread the ball around with the athletisism we have we will create mismatches open things up.
Need to keep Seth's butt on the court, he can't use his hands and pick up the ticky tack fouls, but between he and Reece we are solid at center.
The future is bright guy's.
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| I love the positivity, I really do, probably wish I had a little bit more of that. BUT, I keep reading a lot of "hopefully's," and "if's," and "supposed to's," and I just don't see it all coming together in one amazing and glorious season (see 07-08).
I see us losing 2/3 key players and having a whole lot of potential (still a good thing) that people are banking on to help us immediately. I'm not sold. Looking to 2011-12, because I have to in order to stay realistic.
I agree with USMC, pipe dream...
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| Once a coincidence
Twice a trend
Three times a problem
If the scheme is right, I think this team can succeed. The talent is there.
Again...there is the IF.
Regardless,all the mojo from 2008 is pretty much gone. Honeymoon's over, whatever cliche you want to use...the excuses are over.
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| Really Big Bulldog
Never would I suggest that it's a good thing to have lost JY or AT (I, for one, believe we will miss AT more than anybody)...
RBB, that is exactly what you suggested...read your above statement. It will be good to have
all of the Davis recruits gone ( including JY) so that we can really see if Scooter the Recruiter
can coach or that he needs to be constantly bailed out.
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| Questions for 2010-11.....
Which of this season's freshmen will step up their game?
Will the young guys put on enough muscle/weight to be effective rebounders?
Will somebody step up at point guard?
Will the coaches make the necessary adjustments to be successful?
Will any of the freshmen be good enough to be major contributors?
Will Wedel be more consistent with his shot?
Who will step up as team leader?
Will Drake send anybody to the offensive glass?
Who will be the go-to guy?
Will Sean Jones get off the bench at all?
I've got no answers, just questions.
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| If the scheme is right, I think this team can succeed. The talent is there.
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| I thought I'd dig this up now that we know what the roster should be for fall. This is my latest guess at the depth chart:
1- Alexander, Wiseler, Madison
2- Wedel, Rice, Smith
3- Simons, Jeffers
4- Hawley, Clarke, Woods
5- VanDeest, Uhlenhopp, Parker
VanDeest and Wedel are the only two guys who are likely to start, the other three starting positions are wide open. I especially have no idea how the minutes at the 4 will turn out. All of the 14 guys listed should be in the mix for playing time, but some of them will certainly be left outside the rotation. There should be plenty of hard work over the summer to earn spots in the starting lineup and the rotation, and I wouldn't be surprised to see 1 or 2 guys redshirt next year. It's good to see that Drake has three quality options at most positions. I'm looking forward to the summer league to see how all the new guys look, and to see how much the returning players have improved.
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| Who knows what is going to happen. If I were a Bulldog player right now, I'd be putting in the extra, extra, extra effort. Those in true pursuit of excellence will rise to the top.
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| Mc Bulldog (5/21/2010)
Who knows what is going to happen. If I were a Bulldog player right now, I'd be putting in the extra, extra, extra effort. Those in true pursuit of excellence will rise to the top.
Excellent post McB
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| Unbelievable talent! Watch out Valley, athleticism is here! DUB is right, can't beat quickness. 
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| Ray Rice is a monster and will make an impact He'll be the newcomber of the year for the MVC. He's going nowhere but up. That kid that's transferring from Ft. Dodge looks like a good player as well. Only thing that sucks is that they don't have a true big body in the middle with Van Deest.
Drake without question will be better next year than they were last. JY wasn't 100% healthy all year, they were extremely young and are now a year older. I wish guys like Ulenhopp got a little more PT back half of the year. They'll be a quick team that can run up and down, will be able to move the ball and slash to the hoop.
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| [quote]Gallo (5/21/2010)
Ray Rice is a monster and will make an impact He'll be the newcomber of the year for the MVC. He's going nowhere but up. That kid that's transferring from Ft. Dodge looks like a good player as well. Only thing that sucks is that they don't have a true big body in the middle with Van Deest.
Drake without question will be better next year than they were last. JY wasn't 100% healthy all year, they were extremely young and are now a year older. I wish guys like Ulenhopp got a little more PT back half of the year. They'll be a quick team that can run up and down, will be able to move the ball and slash to the hoop.
Other teams in the conference has some good young talent coming in, but a lot of the other schools lost a bunch too. UNI will not be as good next year.[/quote]
Gallo, I agree especially about RH, he should have had more minuets last year especially towards the end of the year. The kid has lots of upside. Mr. Woods will ad some length and athleticism next year. I think we could be significantly improved. Can wait to see RR on the floor.
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| [quote]Mecha_Bulldog (5/21/2010)
I thought I'd dig this up now that we know what the roster should be for fall. This is my latest guess at the depth chart:
1- Alexander, Wiseler, Madison
2- Wedel, Rice, Smith
3- Simons, Jeffers
4- Hawley, Clarke, Woods
5- VanDeest, Uhlenhopp, Parker
VanDeest and Wedel are the only two guys who are likely to start, the other three starting positions are wide open. I especially have no idea how the minutes at the 4 will turn out. All of the 14 guys listed should be in the mix for playing time, but some of them will certainly be left outside the rotation. There should be plenty of hard work over the summer to earn spots in the starting lineup and the rotation, and I wouldn't be surprised to see 1 or 2 guys redshirt next year. It's good to see that Drake has three quality options at most positions. I'm looking forward to the summer league to see how all the new guys look, and to see how much the returning players have improved.[/quote]
I see Madison and/or Jeffers as redshirt candidates because of the depth at their respective positions. I don't think Hawley will see many minutes at the 4 because Coach P is no longer mentioning him when he discusses who the 4-5s are, he only mentions SVD, RU, JC and now KW. There is a lot of versatility among this group, I think all four are capable of playing either spot (SVD obviously is the "truest" of the 5s). I think Hawley and Simons battle for the minutes at the 3.
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| Drakey (3/9/2010)
I think you would have to have a very tall team to succeed with the offnse we saw the last 5 or 6 games.
How tall is "very tall"? I think Coach P agrees and is bringing in the pieces:
1: Alexander, 6'2"
2: Rice, 6'4"
3: Simons/Hawley, 6'7"
4: Woods, 6'9"
5: Van Deest, 6'10"
Compared to: 6'0", 5'11", 6'1", 6'5", 6'10".
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| Gordon Gottschalk (5/24/2010)
[quote]Drakey (3/9/2010)
I think you would have to have a very tall team to succeed with the offnse we saw the last 5 or 6 games.
How tall is "very tall"? I think Coach P agrees and is bringing in the pieces:
1: Alexander, 6'2"
2: Rice, 6'4"
3: Simons/Hawley, 6'7"
4: Woods, 6'9"
5: Van Deest, 6'10"
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Alexander is not 6'2", maybe 6'1.
Rice is maybe 6'2".
It wouldn't be unusual to see Wedel, Alexander and Rice out there together, not big, but the "Rice Match-up Issue" is huge.
I hear Seth is over 230 now. That is great progress in only two months. He weighs more right now than Craig Brackins does. I realize Brackins is a forward but Seth is growing. Interesting and Exciting!!!
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