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| Game 1 = 82 points
Game 2 = 70 points
Game 3 = 65 points
Game 4 = 59 points
Game 5 = 50 points
HMMMMM? Fast paced basketball 50 points?
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| I was not able to see any of the games over the weekend. Was the sputtering offense the result of slowing the game down? Did the other teams play primarily man? I was encouraged by the offense in the first couple of games. Have we gone backwards?
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| Drakey (11/23/2009)
I was not able to see any of the games over the weekend. Was the spuuteering offense the result of slowing the game down? Did the other teams play primarily man? I was encouraged by the offense in the first couple of games. Have we gone backwards?
Backwards in a relative sense. Teams are manning up and the offense is struggling because our newbies need to make the same leap in their offense fundamentals that htye have made in their defense ones.
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| | The prevent offense is in full force. Simons was scoring way to many points so Phelps was forced to address that. I think we are finding our place, or Phelps' place, which he is comfortable w/, which is in the 50's. |
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| zman2 (11/23/2009)
The prevent offense is in full force. Simons was scoring way to many points so Phelps was forced to address that. I think we are finding our place, or Phelps' place, which he is comfortable w/, which is in the 50's.
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| | Now it gets interesting. Coaches have seen the box scores. Wedel and Simons the new guys on the block can score, so they put some tough D on and their production goes down. JY is getting the same treatment as last year. He is the leading scorer so lets bang him and shut him down and see what happens. l am hoping JY can become the all time leading scorer but at this rate that could be in jeapordy. We will now see how Coach and the newbies respond. |
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| | i think a big reason why the offense has slowed down lately is the fact that we aren't pressing as much. cant remember when i heard coach say it but he said that they were not pressing because the guys need to get back on defense and get better at half court d. this is a major factory in our scoring as we aren't that great of a half court team, we need to be out running and gunning but i understand the decision as he has to get his point across to the team that we MUST play solid half court defense if we want to win ball games. |
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| BulldogJT (11/23/2009)
i think a big reason why the offense has slowed down lately is the fact that we aren't pressing as much. cant remember when i heard coach say it but he said that they were not pressing because the guys need to get back on defense and get better at half court d. this is a major factory in our scoring as we aren't that great of a half court team, we need to be out running and gunning but i understand the decision as he has to get his point across to the team that we MUST play solid half court defense if we want to win ball games.
So we play the game at the tempo as dictated by the opposition which is not best suited to the talents of our players. Our players seem more suited to up tempo. I think that to be successful you must dictate the style of play not the opponent. It is a basic tactic to desire to inflicted one's will on the opposition. Action trumps reaction. |
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| usmcdog (11/23/2009)
[quote]BulldogJT (11/23/2009)
i think a big reason why the offense has slowed down lately is the fact that we aren't pressing as much. cant remember when i heard coach say it but he said that they were not pressing because the guys need to get back on defense and get better at half court d. this is a major factory in our scoring as we aren't that great of a half court team, we need to be out running and gunning but i understand the decision as he has to get his point across to the team that we MUST play solid half court defense if we want to win ball games.
So we play the game at the tempo as dictated by the opposition which is not best suited to the talents of our players. Our players seem more suited to up tempo. I think that to be successful you must dictate the style of play not the opponent. It is a basic tactic to desire to inflicted one's will on the opposition. Action trumps reaction.[/quote]
i dont think he is doing it based off of the opponent, i think it is more of a focus on shoring up our half court defense before we extend it all the way out to full court. we must learn to play decent half court defense, we cant just go out and play like grinnell and try and out gun our opponent every night. i completely agree that we are light years better when we are out and running though but we have to be able to transition from our full court press into our half court and actually have a chance of stopping someone.. i think playing 3 games in 3 days also might have played a factor in not pressing as much as well. |
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| BT (11/23/2009)
Now it gets interesting. Coaches have seen the box scores. Wedel and Simons the new guys on the block can score, so they put some tough D on and their production goes down. JY is getting the same treatment as last year. He is the leading scorer so lets bang him and shut him down and see what happens. l am hoping JY can become the all time leading scorer but at this rate that could be in jeapordy. We will now see how Coach and the newbies respond.
That's the way I see it too. There needs to be scoring from inside the paint, however it gets done -- penetration, post ups. off. rebounds. I am afraid that given Wedel's size he may face the same treatment as JY. I think it is going to be up to the others to create opportunities for themselves and not rely on JY and RWedel to do it all.
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| Agree that teams will get wise to the new guys and will be quick to realize they would rather take their chances of us scoring in the paint rather than giving up the 3.
I expect JY to bounce back. You could tell he missed a weeks worth of practice prior to the ISU game. I would expect we will see better from him as the hip heals and he gets back in game shape.
Improvement was made on D and the boards, just need to put it together with the offense. Also, take a look at the teams that have beat us. They are performing well in their other games, just don't have the name recognition.
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| Dawg_tired (11/24/2009)
Can someone say sock puppet?
Oh cripes DT. Has Hoosierbulldog commandeered you?
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| No why would you say that????? I just think Phelps is a great coach.
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| Dawg_tired (11/24/2009)
Can someone say sock puppet?
I will keep the the coach and back to back top MVC recruiting classes. Players play the game.
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| | I'm watching Iowa v. W. State. I feel soooo much better about our Drake team. Good God is Iowa bad right now. |
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| DUlawdog (11/24/2009)
I'm watching Iowa v. W. State. I feel soooo much better about our Drake team. Good God is Iowa bad right now.
So you're predicting a Drake win against Iowa?
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| Drakey (11/24/2009)
[quote]DUlawdog (11/24/2009)
I'm watching Iowa v. W. State. I feel soooo much better about our Drake team. Good God is Iowa bad right now.
So you're predicting a Drake win against Iowa?[/quote]
hehe I was afraid someone was going to ask that....Well, right now, I think we'd beat them by 15 points. There's a few games in between, so I reserve the right to modify my opinion. I do think that Drake looks far more talented than Iowa. |
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