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Posted 4/15/2008 11:06:20 AM


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I think it's good that everyone's so upset about Keno's impending departure, it means we care.
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Posted 4/15/2008 11:14:11 AM


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I'm trying to handle this with class but as more time goes by the more I feel used and abused. I'm pissed off.

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Posted 4/15/2008 11:19:03 AM


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that's one way to look at it, but most of us would have traded our first born for a season like the dogs just had. i don't know how much of the success was really keno's doing, but it was one hell of a roller coaster ride. if the basketball gods would have said "we'll give you a 28 win season and a conference title, but after the season you have to give us your coach" who wouldn't have jumped at that chance?
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Posted 4/15/2008 11:23:45 AM


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I think for those of us who have been following this team for 20 or 30 years, we would probably have preferred 4 or 5 more losses and a returning coach. At least I would. This is not like SIU where the program was solidly in place when they started losing coaches.

I suppose the little weasel will sneak into town in the night and leave under cover of darkness, never to return.

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Posted 4/15/2008 11:34:31 AM


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Look, folks, its $1 million a year for SEVEN years. Let's not be too angry. Providence could not afford to be rejected by a third coach and still have any credibility as a Big East program. The put out a huge deal he couldn't refuse. Even if Drake pulled out a $500k per year deal to keep him, which seems to be about the best DU could have done, Keno would still be banking at least $3.5 million more than that over the next seven years at Providence.


He didn't leave just to get out of Drake or the Valley. He left for lifetime financial security for his family. Be honest with yourselves and ask if your loyalty to Drake is worth $3-5 million.

Plus, we all know how turbulent the coaching profession can be. Just ask Royce Waltman (2 NCAA Tourney Bids) or Barry Hinson (annual over/under win total of 20) how well the loyalty plan works, even in the Valley.
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Posted 4/15/2008 11:43:00 AM


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Maybe he'll get to Providence and he'll freak out when he's putting on his friar robe sort of like dana altman did when he did the pig call at arkansas. then he'll come back.

my loyalty could be purchased for much less than 3 million.
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Posted 4/15/2008 12:03:54 PM


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If Drake is unwilling or unable to pay a coach even a modest salary (300 - 400K) then why bother be D1. We should then be D3.
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Posted 4/15/2008 12:09:03 PM


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At least we've moved beyond denial.

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Posted 4/15/2008 12:38:24 PM


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Mc Bulldog (4/15/2008)
I'm trying to handle this with class but as more time goes by the more I feel used and abused. I'm pissed off.


You're mad because you are afraid of how Drake will respond. I understand the sentiment and simply cannot fathom the pain of having to go through another Rudy/Kanaskie debacle. I trust SHC and hope Maxwell is not a roadblock.

I like the idea of a Pearle assistant. It keeps the Dr. Tom/Keno connection alive and it hopefully would mean a continuation of the same style of play.

3 in a Row: 2007, 2008, 2009. Let's make it 4!
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Posted 4/15/2008 1:02:19 PM
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Big Turk, I am right w/you. The problem we have now is that we are going to have to pay a new coach 250-300K just to get a look. If all this talk about Maxwell is true, I think the guy has to go. We are not an Ivy League school & let's quit pretending we are. We need basketball to be successful & this guy does not have a clue.
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Posted 4/15/2008 1:09:30 PM


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I don't know who started this Maxwell bashing, but it seems to me it is way out of line. This is a new era folks. SHC is the man! She will come through with a great hire, there will be enough money for the new coach, drakenation will calm down and next year will be all good. I'm not saying 28 wins, but even Keno wasn't going to give us that.

Mark this post DUB. I want this thrown back in my face next April so I can tell everyone I told you so.

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Posted 4/15/2008 1:21:32 PM


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Y'all know what that call a gal that just does it for money don't you? Keno has joined that too large a group of coaches who are like those gals.
If Keno does not significantly improve the teams record in 2 years, you can be certain that the abuse may not be worth the dollars.
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Posted 4/15/2008 1:30:21 PM


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Kay - rist ... I can't keep track of the threads!

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Posted 4/15/2008 1:43:22 PM


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Tell me about McB! I'm having a halluva being the only positive guy on this board. The thing that keeps me going is I know all the pass and moaners have their heads up their isses.

3 in a Row: 2007, 2008, 2009. Let's make it 4!
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Posted 4/15/2008 2:01:01 PM


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I'm okay with the move. Better Keno than Josh Young or Bucky or something. People stopped being mad at Luke McDonald eventually didn't they? I would think Keno's departure would be easier to get over.
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Posted 4/15/2008 2:12:36 PM


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Gordon Gottschalk (4/15/2008)
[quote]Mc Bulldog (4/15/2008)
It keeps the Dr. Tom/Keno connection alive.....


Ehh...let it die. Love doc.....but let's cut the chord 100%.

And I'm pissed. No well wishes here.

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Posted 4/15/2008 2:25:31 PM


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gutwrencher (4/15/2008)
[quote]Gordon Gottschalk (4/15/2008)
[quote]Mc Bulldog (4/15/2008)
It keeps the Dr. Tom/Keno connection alive.....

Ehh...let it die. Love doc.....but let's cut the chord 100%.
And I'm pissed. No well wishes here.
Keno here is my boot....let me help you out.[/quote]

Gut, I love you man and I know you're a great fan, but get over yourself. Wish Keno well, he certainly has a warm spot in his heart for us. As does Dr. Tom, as does Dave Blank. Drake is not UCLA. Coaches and ADs will pass through -- not out of disloyalty to Drake but out of loyalty to their families economic futures and in furtherance of their careers. We don't need to hate them for it. Besides, we have an awesome AD and our new coach is going to be great!

3 in a Row: 2007, 2008, 2009. Let's make it 4!
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Posted 4/15/2008 2:45:58 PM


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kingnort (4/15/2008)
People stopped being mad at Luke McDonald eventually didn't they?


No, not really

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Posted 4/15/2008 2:47:30 PM


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what about Quantel Murphy?
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Posted 4/15/2008 3:07:01 PM


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In 3 years, Keno will be looking for an assistant coaching job after getting canned with a 30 and 65 record at Providence, he won't have DR. to assist in the rebuilding and the Big East is smashmouth basketball.

Thanks coach for the year we will remember, you may never have made a million dollars here, but you never would have been canned either, hope you like the big east preasure cooker with all those classy east coast fans and alums.

Thanks for what you could give sorry it wasn't more.

Big Bull keeps the faith!!!
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