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| I see that Tony Freeman is going to be transferring from Iowa:
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I think this would be a great get for the Bulldogs. A starting lineup in '09-'10 that includes Parker, Young, and Freeman would be tough to beat in the MVC. He seems to clash with Lickliter's coaching style, so I don't think there is necessarily a character problem. Plus, Josh Young appears to be the new leader of the team, so I wouldn't worry about this guy being a cancer. |
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| Career Shooting Stats
Season TEAM G MIN FG FGA FG% FG3 FG3A FG3% FT FTA FT% PTS AVG
2005-06 Iowa 33 539 40 118 33.9 21 69 30.4 10 16 62.5 111 3.4
2006-07 Iowa 31 780 76 189 40.2 35 99 35.4 46 66 69.7 233 7.5
2007-08 Iowa 22 769 91 242 37.6 62 162 38.3 60 87 69 304 13.8
TOTAL 86 2088 207 549 37.7 118 330 35.8 116 169 68.6 648 7.5
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Season TEAM G MIN REB RAVG A AAVG STL SAVG BLK BAVG TO
2005-06 Iowa 33 539 42 1.3 53 1.6 19 0.6 0 0 55
2006-07 Iowa 31 780 90 2.9 116 3.7 33 1.1 1 0 69
2007-08 Iowa 22 769 68 3.1 71 3.2 22 1 4 0.2 71
TOTAL 86 2088 200 2.3 240 2.8 74 0.9 5 0.1 195
Its tough to say a talented athlete wouldn't fit, but by 09/10 JY will be a senior, JP a junior our texas transfer a Senior and who knows who else will be in that mix. TF is pretty talented, but he's not that great of shooter, He doesn't create as a point guard at 3.2 per game. Hard to say a kid couldn't help, but he obviously wasn't adjusting to TL system and with only one year to play at Drake why do you think he would make a signifigant contribution? He's not going to start at Point. And I can't see him taking minuets from JY.
If he would have 2 years mayby but he kind of sounds like he wants things his way.
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| The guy was third team All Big Ten this year and averaged 14 points per game. How many players in the MVC could have averaged 14 a game in the Big Ten? Freeman could very easily play in Josh Young's spot or Josh Parker's spot. Each of those guys are generally going to be on the bench somewhere around a combined 15 minutes a game.
Plus, Phelps plays a 3-2 zone, so the possibility does exist that those three could be on the floor at the same time. I am thinking of a similar setup to the way that Western Kentucky substituted this year. |
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| Freeman has a ton of talent, but he didn't fit into Lickliter's system. I think Lickliter is trying to do a lot of the things Drake did last year. if he didn't fit at Iowa he won't fit at Drake, although that could change if Phelps wants to run a completely different system. Besides, Drake doesn't have an open scholarship right now. I have a feeling he'll wind up at New Mexico with Alford.
BTW, totally classless move by Iowa to force out a guy with one year of eligibility.
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| [quote]Mecha_Bulldog (5/3/2008)
Freeman has a ton of talent, but he didn't fit into Lickliter's system. I think Lickliter is trying to do a lot of the things Drake did last year. if he didn't fit at Iowa he won't fit at Drake, although that could change if Phelps wants to run a completely different system. Besides, Drake doesn't have an open scholarship right now. I have a feeling he'll wind up at New Mexico with Alford.
BTW, totally classless move by Iowa to force out a guy with one year of eligibility.[/quote]
Lickliter doing the same thing as Drake?????? He plays a methodical slow down game scoring in the 50s.
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| "The guy was third team All Big Ten this year and averaged 14 points per game. How many players in the MVC could have averaged 14 a game in the Big Ten? Freeman could very easily play in Josh Young's spot or Josh Parker's spot. Each of those guys are generally going to be on the bench somewhere around a combined 15 minutes a game."
So if you could have, you would have prefered TF to JY this year? How about AE? AE created assists and opportunities, not turnovers, and with Freemans FG% vs JY's %, how many wins are you willing to give up? If TF comes to Drake, Is he going to want to be Team captain because he played in the B10? I think you wouldwant that base on your oppinion of him VS Drakes current guards.
Im affraid your oppinion of big 10 and Iowa talent especially, is way too high, and your oppinion of Drake and the Valley is too low.
But you missed my main point, I didn't say he wasn't talented, I said he's not a good fit coming in as a senior. If he started as a freshman in a Valley program he may have done very well in the Valley, but it doesn't mean he would be All valley just because he was third string B10.
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| I did not mean as a replacement to Josh Young. I meant when Young goes out of the game someone goes in for him. A guy like Tony Freeman would be much better in this position than a guy like Baryenbruch or John Michael Hall.
Also, there is nothing that guarantees that Josh Parker is going to be a great point guard. He averaged 7 minutes a game last year. In Josh Young's senior year, might not it be a good idea to get some insurance in case he and this no-name player from Texas end up not playing as high of a level as a Third Team All Big 10 player?
I have no idea why this is such a controversial debate. A good player from the Big 10 is more likely to contribute than some unproven JUCO player. |
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| Dawg_tired (5/3/2008)
Lickliter doing the same thing as Drake?????? He plays a methodical slow down game scoring in the 50s.
Drake had more of a transition game than Iowa last year, but otherwise they were methodical and fairly slow. Iowa played horribly slow last year, but they probably would've gone a little more uptempo if they had more talent. The main criticisms of Freeman I've seen from Iowa fans are that he made too many stupid mistakes, and he dribbled too much. If that killed him at Iowa, it would kill him at Drake.
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